JasonHayashi

From Taylor Eigsti's new album
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ktfwLMivUw

I guess I am personally drawn to music like this more and more.  I guess it would be nice to hear something like this in Taiwan too.. accomplished jazz musicians fusing their work with indie pop/new music.

Chris

其實我覺得聽起來還是很爵士哎，
不是真的太流行的感覺，
不知道是和聲還是什麼東西的關係（不懂樂理）

但是確實台灣能有這樣的東西的話應該會很不錯！！！

JasonHayashi

Chris,

You should check out Elliot Smith, Jeff Buckley, Nick Drake, Sufjan Stevens, Juana Molina, Rufus Wainright, Ben Harper, .. etc

It's not your typical "pop" music, but it's more like indie pop music.  I know about this because my friends in US grew up listening to these music.  In my opinion, most of the creative pop music I hear nowdays are indie..  I am noticing that a lot of younger jazz musicians are covering their music lately.

[ 本文章最後由 JasonHayashi 於 11-21-2010 22:48 編輯 ]

Chris

Indie Pop music 就滿像這種感覺
可以想像一些台灣的 indie 歌手演唱這樣的風格
（也許這件事正在發生也不一定）
但是我不是很確定，因為台灣的流行歌甚至獨立/地下音樂的風格跟美國的好像也有點不一樣
就好像我（自己感覺上）國語流行歌的旋律以及唱腔跟美國的流行歌也不太相同
可是可能 indie 歌手/音樂會比較接觸西方的現在進行式一點... I dont know.

不知道大家對 Herbie Hancock 的 "possibilities" 這張專輯有什麼看法
是不是也在所謂 jazz/pop mix 的討論之內？

ps. 正在 check out Elliott Smith

JasonHayashi

Chris,

Yes, Indie/folk Pop is hard to find in Taiwan, mostly because it's hard for Taiwanese audience to get access to them. What you see are the ones who are commercially successful like Norah Jones and John Mayer, but there are a lot of great music that aren't that well-known.   It's the same reason Taylor Eigsti's is hard to find in Taiwan, even though he is one of the best young piano player out there. (in US he is just as respected as Hiromi).  I think part of the reason is that America is so huge, and you have very different musical influence.

Herbie Hancock is good example too .. he has an album called "the new standard", and "river" is his tribute to a folk artist Joni Mitchell.

Here's some other examples I can think of...I think you'll see more mix of jazz and other genres like this in the future.

Joanna Newsom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhC0BJqFvdk

Nick Drake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2jxjv0HkwM

Joni Mitchell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaqVWY3wYdQ

[ 本文章最後由 JasonHayashi 於 11-22-2010 03:54 編輯 ]

KenK

最近聽到 Joey Defrancesco 的一張 Michael Jackson tribute 作品 "Never Can Say Goodbye"
不知道跟 Jason 你想的 jazz/pop mix 是不是屬於同一類
我覺得滿喜歡的... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVc2-fm6hCU
這裡還有其他試聽片段 http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=8254505

gaji

Coincidently, Day is done is one of my favorite songs EVER.
and I personally think Taylor Eigsti is amazing...say, in 'Lucky to be me', the piano exhibits such a lush harmonic sound that reminds me of the works of Ravel. And also good are the remakes (cover?) of the works from previous masters(Pink moon.....etc)......I'd say he swiftly mixes the element of both classical and modern jazz that even in my classically-trained ear they sound incredibly amazing!

JasonHayashi

gaji,

What I find interesting is that all these new jazz stuff is moving away from swing, and I think what Taylor Eigsti is doing is a reflection of my generation of musician who grew up listening to those kind of music.  Robert Glasper does some similar, except his roots is based on hip hop.  

A friend of mine arranged the opening of Samuel Barber's "excercusions" into a piece he was writing and also covered music for Elliot Smith, Theme for Chinatown.. etc.  Nowdays it seem more acceptable for jazz musicians to be influenced by everything other than jazz.

kenk

I like Joey Defrancesco   But yea, I guess I am looking for something that takes more of the rhythmic feel of the music they are covering.. People have covered Beatles and other rock bands in the past too, but they usually do it in swing or other jazz-related rhythm.  But nowdays, musicians seems to be doing more to re-rhythm-ize (like re-harmonize) the music they cover.